During a press conference on Tuesday, President Trump addressed one of the most significant scandals of his second term: the accidental sharing of war plans by his Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, with The Atlantic’s top editor, Jeffrey Goldberg, via a rogue invite to a group Signal chat.

Trump’s tone when discussing the incident was surprisingly nonchalant, stating, “It’s just something that can happen,” in reference to the Secretary of Defense unintentionally sending secret war plans to a journalist. He reiterated, “It can happen. You can even prepare for it, it can happen,” in an attempt to downplay the severity of the situation.

Later, Trump elaborated on his understanding of the incident, saying, “Sometimes people are hooked in and you don’t know they’re hooked in.” He then transitioned into a more abstract discussion about the nature of modern technology, stating, “It’s not a perfect technology, there is no perfect technology. We always want to use the best technology. This was the best technology for the moment.” However, his comments failed to provide clarity, particularly given that Signal is not approved for discussing sensitive matters due to the potential for hacking by foreign actors.

Frankly, it’s unclear whether Trump fully understands what Signal is. He referred to it as “an app—if you want to call it an app” at one point. Later, the President admitted, “Well, I don’t know—I don’t know anything about Signal, I wasn’t involved with this, I just heard about it.” He added, “I hear it’s used by a lot of groups.”

Trump also reaffirmed the claim that no secret information was shared in the text message thread, stating, “Again, it wasn’t classified, so they probably viewed it as being something that wasn’t that important.”

Top Trump administration officials have maintained that the information included in the leaked conversation was not classified material. Hegseth has claimed that he was not texting war plans and has referred to Goldberg as a “deceitful, so-called journalist.” Goldberg has characterized Hegseth’s denial as “a lie.” After top officials, including Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, told Congress that no classified information was shared in the chat, The Atlantic released nearly the entire chat, including the specific time a strike was expected to hit a target.

When asked whether Hegseth should apologize, Trump defended the Secretary of Defense, stating, “No, I don’t think he should apologize. I think he’s doing his best. It’s equipment and technology that’s not perfect, and probably he won’t be using it again.” It’s safe to say that Hegseth’s “best” is not very good, and one can only imagine what his worst might look like. America’s foreign adversaries are likely eager to see it as well.